Hi all,
I think that the company PowerBasic Inc bankrupt is and turn off the lights for all his activities. De website is down and not available. It's finisch, over and out. I hope not because the compilers are the best and fast products from all the basic dialects.
Kind regards
Stephane
Yep ... site is currently down .. Is this it .. or will it come back up ..?
Quote from: Eddy Van Esch on February 24, 2014, 07:44:54 PM
Is this it .. or will it come back up ..?
The sad thing is nobody really cares either way. They have destroyed their customer base.
If this is
it, it is the best way for them to go out and it is truly no great loss at this point.
I was just on the PB site before i came here...
Yes. It seems to be back up again.
Which is why I had "if" in italics. Their server issues have become legendary. This may be one of their shortest outages.
And it appears to be down once again.
Quote from: Michael Stefanik on February 26, 2014, 05:16:52 PM
And it appears to be down once again.
If I didn't know any better, I would say they were being hosted at Dreamhost. ;D
Some happy I'm learning C++
I wonder if the forum has been hacked?
Last I checked, they were using antique versions of the forum software. I have no idea how its being maintained, or even if it really is.
Quote from: James Klutho on February 26, 2014, 07:07:44 PM
I wonder if the forum has been hacked?
If Tom was still around, I would say perhaps this might be the case. Most likely it is buggy server and buggy forum software being maintained by somebody who simply reboots the server and never fixes the actual issues.
It's back up
Quote from: TechSupport on February 26, 2014, 07:04:30 PM
Some happy I'm learning C++
I am going the PureBasic way ... :)
Down again. That didn't last long.
Nope.
Quote from: James Klutho on February 26, 2014, 08:03:08 PM
Down again. That didn't last long.
UPS batteries probably end of life ... ;D
PowerBasic.Com site is down again.
But I did get a ping, so apparently the power is on.
>ping powerbasic.com
Pinging powerbasic.com [70.90.69.33] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 70.90.69.33: bytes=32 time=127ms TTL=53
Reply from 70.90.69.33: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=53
Reply from 70.90.69.33: bytes=32 time=103ms TTL=53
Reply from 70.90.69.33: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=53
Quote from: TechSupport on February 26, 2014, 10:30:49 PM
Chicken :P jk
Well.. due to your continuous ... 'attempts to persuade me' ( ;D ) I was tempted to start learning C++ .. But only for a very brief moment .. :D . Every time I look at C(++) code I can't help but think: "Why on earth want people make programming (in C++) so complicated when it can be so simple (PowerB, PureB..)".
I seem to have a natural aversion for C(++). Can't help it...
So what, if C++ is an 'industry standard'? I do not have to make a living programming. Programming for me has to be fun in the first place. I can't imagine that programming in C++ would be fun for me. I would be constantly annoyed by the never-ending needless complexities of it. It's not just the syntax. It is also the dependencies of this-and-that library or framework.
Or maybe I am just to plain stupid and/or lazy to learn it. That is also possible.
I have been looking at PureBasic and its forums. That is the tool for me. It's a self-contained package, including a visual designer (ok, it's no FF, true..). It has a nice and simple BASIC syntax (the one or 2 odd notations I can live with). It runs on 32 and 64 bits, cross-platform. Produces a single stand-alone small executable, no runtimes, no frameworks required. Compiles fast. Produces fast code. The command set is awesome. 95% of the functionality that you ever might need is already built into the language. Little need to immediately having to look for other libraries.
Ok, so it is an 'indie language', no industry standard. But the main programmer is working full time on it. It is his profession. And there are a few other programmers too. PuB has been around for 15 years already.
The forums are very much alive, full with helpful, responsive and knowledgeable people.
Bottom line is: if some people want to choose C++, I completely understand their arguments. But it's not for me. I want programming to be fun! C++ can't do that for me. Also, I want to be productive in programming. I want to devote all my energy to the
payload.. not the
vehicle ... :)
Hope this makes (a little) sense ... :)
One more thing: I have only followed the forums for a few days, looking at some code snippets. Playing around with the form designer a bit and looked at the code it produces. Took a few peeks at the help file but haven't yet read any manual/tutorial.
Yet, I could start programming in PureBasic right now already... How's that for a learning curve ... :P :D
Quote from: Eddy Van Esch on February 27, 2014, 04:44:02 AM... I have been looking at PureBasic and its forums. That is the tool for me. It's a self-contained package, including a visual designer (ok, it's no FF, true..). It has a nice and simple BASIC syntax (the one or 2 odd notations I can live with). It runs on 32 and 64 bits, cross-platform. Produces a single stand-alone small executable, no runtimes, no frameworks required. Compiles fast. Produces fast code. The command set is awesome. 95% of the functionality that you ever might need is already built into the language. Little need to immediately having to look for other libraries...
...One more thing: I have only followed the forums for a few days, looking at some code snippets. Playing around with the form designer a bit and looked at the code it produces. Took a few peeks at the help file but haven't yet read any manual/tutorial.
Yet, I could start programming in PureBasic right now already... How's that for a learning curve ... :P :D
Welcome to PureB! ;)
Quote from: Eddy Van Esch on February 27, 2014, 04:44:02 AM
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... Little need to immediately having to look for other libraries.
Very true... but you can find them if you need to. And not just libraries, there's plenty of source code on the forum.
I wanted to try 7-Zip compression for a small backup program that I'm currenty writing... did a search for 7-Zip and there it was. Added a couple of functions to my backup program and now I'm compressing folders MUCH easier than I could with other compression schemes because 7-ZIP itself offers so many built in switches.
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Yet, I could start programming in PureBasic right now already... How's that for a learning curve ... :P :D
Couldn't have said it any better myself.
Welcome :)
Down again. What is the over/under on how many times it will go down today?
Se ve por la red que los de powerbasic van a dejar de actualizar sus productos y firefly aprovecha para hacer lo mismo, lo cual no me parece bien. Un buen lenguaje como powerbasic puede aguantan muchos años como esta y no veo la necesidad que firefly haga lo mismo.
QuoteNotice: February 2, 2014
PlanetSquires terminated 3rd Party Development of programmer tools/addons for the PowerBASIC programming language.
The FireFly Visual Designer will continue to be supported, however, there will be no major upgrades to the core program. This may change in the future should the situation with PowerBASIC’s current lack of development change. The product has been priced to reflect this situation
The PlanetSquires Private Member’s forum is still very active and provides access to free bug fixes.
Esto es desalentador para los ultimos compradores que pagaron 99$ y que aun estamos aprendiendo a usar el editor, la verdad que dan ganas de pasarse a Microsoft.
Powerbasic was up again this morning but appears down again at this moment. I have no idea what the problem could be. I hope Leaderchip has been contracted to do some diagnostics besides running the skeleton business for who ever is tending this business (trustee?).
Quote from: Pedro Marquez on February 27, 2014, 12:52:18 PM
Se ve por la red que los de powerbasic van a dejar de actualizar sus productos y firefly aprovecha para hacer lo mismo, [...] Esto es desalentador para los ultimos compradores que pagaron 99$ y que aun estamos aprendiendo a usar el editor, la verdad que dan ganas de pasarse a Microsoft.
Pedro, la situación esta fea, pero mira el lado positivo; Paul no esta abandonando a sus compradores, solamente esta diciendo que ya no habrá actualizaciones mayores. Los compradores aun tienen acceso a soporte técnico y si Paul hace alguna actualización en Firefly, todos, incluidos los compradores nuevos tendremos acceso a esas correcciones.
Animo, esperemos que la situación cambie. Se me hace difÃcil pensar que Vivian vaya a dejar que el legado de su esposo se muera asà nada mas. Seguramente ella quiere hacer algo, esperemos que lo haga pronto.
Click ==>Siempre mira el lado bueno de la vida. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-7moc6I9Jg) ;D ;D
Its up again. :) (2:10pm)
Does it matter much if it is up or down? Methinks that the only thing that Vivian would like to do is to sell the business, but it is unlikely that she will find a buyer.
> Esto es desalentador para los ultimos compradores que pagaron 99$ y que aun estamos > aprendiendo a usar el editor, la verdad que dan ganas de pasarse a Microsoft.
Ya quisiera yo estar en su lugar y haber perdido solamente 99$. Algunos de nosotros hemos visto como muchos años de trabajo se han ido a la m..., digo la basura.
Quote from: Jose Roca on February 27, 2014, 06:21:35 PM
Ya quisiera yo estar en su lugar y haber perdido solamente 99$. Algunos de nosotros hemos visto como muchos años de trabajo se han ido a la m..., digo la basura.
No digo que he perdido nada ya que los dos productos son muy buenos y valen su dinero, pero si cierran el foro que es donde esta casi todo, los novatos ya podemos cerrar.
Quote from: Jose Roca on February 27, 2014, 06:17:18 PM
Does it matter much if it is up or down?
At this point, anybody hoping for PowerB being saved or a new version coming out, needs a psychiatric evaluation. Denial is the first step when dealing with Grief/Loss and it is the step that some people can never seem to get past. If you are still holding out hope for PowerB you need to be in therapy to help you get past the Denial stage. It is not a healthy mindset to live under.
In case anyone is interested, PB is down again. Something is foobarred and needs fix'in.
Quote from: James Klutho on February 27, 2014, 07:42:29 PM
In case anyone is interested, ...
I think most of us are beyond that point. We are not 'staying tuned' anymore ...
Pedro, Elias, and Jose.... thanks guys, my Google Translate is getting a good workout today! :D :D
Hi all,
I'm very happy PowerBasic is back and do continue support en developed his products. I look out the the major upgrades PBWin10 and PBCC7
Thanks
Quote from: Stephane Fonteyne on March 08, 2014, 03:50:22 PM
Hi all,
I'm very happy PowerBasic is back and do continue support en developed his products. I look out the the major upgrades PBWin10 and PBCC7
Thanks
I hate to burst your bubble, but PowerBASIC is NOT back, and there is still not support or continued development of the products. The only thing posted was a rewording of the exact same message that has been posted since Bob died. Now, another new team is going to save the day and they say to stay tuned for news in the future. What is sad, is there are so many gullible people who believe this nonsense and are willingly allowing themselves to continually be strung along.
PowerBASIC being back (which it is not) isn't the issue, the issue is will the customers come back. That simply won't happen. PowerBASIC can, and will, NEVER be what it was and it can never recover from the damage that has been done.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/PowerBASIC/156072327793349 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/PowerBASIC/156072327793349)
Sorry, Its sad, but this really tells you how hot things are right now at PB.
Looks like Tom Hanlin just made a post on PB stating that the servers are moving this weekend and "We're going to make it shine again, very shortly". Looks like Tom is part of the group (or is the group) that will run PB in the future. Let's get funky with Basic.
Quote from: James Klutho on March 14, 2014, 04:51:46 PM
Looks like Tom Hanlin just made a post on PB stating that the servers are moving this weekend and Looks like Tom is part of the group (or is the group) that will run PB in the future. Let's get funky with Basic.
Personally, I think someone should have made an "official" announcement stating what was happening. The same ole song and dance, and in my opinion they are still beating a dead horse.
QuoteLooks like Tom Hanlin just made a post on PB stating that the servers are moving this weekend and "We're going to make it shine again, very shortly". Looks like Tom is part of the group (or is the group) that will run PB in the future ...
I hope Power-Basic doesn't go the way of I-Basic.
Quote from: James Klutho on March 14, 2014, 04:51:46 PM
Looks like Tom is part of the group (or is the group) that will run PB in the future.
Yepp, sounds like it. And from all what Eric had posted over the last months, I'd guess he's in there, too.