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Title: I'm back
Post by: Paul Squires on November 06, 2016, 08:08:31 PM
Been away from programming for a month or so due to the real life job. :)   I should have lots more time now and I hope to get WinFBE and other FB projects finalized.
Title: Re: I'm back
Post by: José Roca on November 07, 2016, 03:21:39 PM
Welcome back. I have stopped coding because nobody is willing to use the framework unless somebody gives them a visual designer (or garbage generator, as Hutch calls it :) ).
Title: Re: I'm back
Post by: Andrew Lindsay on November 07, 2016, 05:33:48 PM
Jose,


Please don't take a lack of feedback on your wonderful code as a lack of interest in using it.  I am just embarking on writing a quick little utility for work.


While I admit, I love having a 'garbage generator' (Hutch's words not yours' I know), I get such little free time to actually code anything these days, I have only ever had a chance to watch what you have been doing, not actually get out there and use it in anger.


Please do keep up your magnificent work.  The silent coder do appreciate your hard work.


Regards


Andrew
Title: Re: I'm back
Post by: Paul Squires on November 08, 2016, 12:19:17 PM
I agree Andrew. Jose has produced so much content that it can get overwhelming for most people to keep up. I am using the CWindow framework and all of Jose's helper functions especially the Unicode string class. I never did get into the COM code because, like most people, if you do not have an immediate need to work with it then you put it in the pile of "Man, that's cool stuff. Can't wait to have an application that I can use it in."

I have never understood why there is hate towards visual designers. If they make life/coding easier and do not impose a severe performance penalty then I am all for it. It's just another tool in the programming arsenal. It makes fiddling with form/control positioning less tedious.
Title: Re: I'm back
Post by: James Fuller on November 08, 2016, 12:50:26 PM
Quote from: TechSupport on November 08, 2016, 12:19:17 PM
It makes fiddling with form/control positioning less tedious.
Not necessarily. If I want an matrix of edit controls it's easier to do the creation in a source code loop than it is to try and position them evenly spaced with a designer. The old Borland 5.0 Dialog editor had that feature.

James
Title: Re: I'm back
Post by: José Roca on November 08, 2016, 01:09:29 PM
The problem are not visual designers or any other tool, but that many people use them to avoid to learn how to program at a lower level. Do you really need a visual designer to do simple tests?
Title: Re: I'm back
Post by: Klaas Holland on November 08, 2016, 01:47:35 PM
Without FireFly and Paul's help, I would not have come this far.
Especially not in FreeBasic.
So go ahead Paul and make FireFly even better.