Locked Controls

[Thomas Cone Jr]

Cho, in conversation proponents of "active listening" encourage us to reframe and restate what we hear others say.  Is considered courteous.  A sign that we are paying attention and understand what others are saying.  And, if we restate something incorrectly reframing gives the other an easy way to clarify so that communication is improved.  Unfortunately, this sometimes doesn't work as well in the context of typed message board replies, where no one likes having their statements "rewritten".  -- tom

[Rolf Brandt]

Thanks for your reply, Cho.

[David Kenny]

Thanks Cho,

I have to admit that I wasn't sure where you were coming from with your fervor. Your link seemed to validate my assertion that something wasn't working right with locked controls. Post from Paul:

If a control is locked you will not be able to size or move it either by the mouse, the PropertyList, or by the keyboard shortcuts.

I read on and figured it out. Next post from Paul:

I was thinking about this and I think that I will remove the restriction that controls can not be moved/sized by keyboard keys if they are locked.

I knew what he said in the first quote and thought I knew what he said in the second.  I just misread it.  I can tell you are passionate about FF.  I am right with you on that one.  I meant no disrespect.

FF didn't behave as I expected it should and my expectations have changed with this new info. I was asking for the 'bug' to be fixed and a preference setting for those who like it this way.  When I played with it again, I found that this way has it's merits. It really helped by knowing that it is indeed working as designed.

David

[Cho Sing Kum]

Hi David,

I apologise for being harsh. I too meant no disrespect.

Yes we are all here because we like FF and want to see it get better. I hope I know you better now after this. There is an eastern saying something like, "If we had not fought, we would not have got acquanted."

Cho

[Roger Garstang]

Wow, this got all blown up and I wasn't even involved...I feel left out now.  For what it is worth I think the WYSIWYG Web Builder forums are worse, with PB a close 2nd.  Great product, but I think the Dutch guys there hate Americans and they seem to write and speak fine, but in replies they act like there is a communication barrier and they take everything I say wrong.  They delete posts and threads faster than PB Bob too.  Ole Pablo over their takes things too personal with his app too and thinks it is bug free.  Glad Paul is so open here to comments.

As for the controls I was confused on this at first and thought the original post was saying if some controls in a form were locked and others weren't and you drag selected them all and moved them that is was moving the locked ones...so, I tested and they were working fine (I could highlight all the controls and even click and drag on one that was locked in the group and it only moved and showed outlines for the controls unlocked).  Then I realized he was moving by keys.  Keys have always allowed moving and is how I usually do it to avoid unlocking manually when I want to move some...which is even more important now with more than one way to lock and not only having to globally unlock but unlock each control if I just need to bump it a couple pixels.  I've never accidentally bumped a control by keys.  It sounds like the issue is in the selection of controls.  Since dragging the selection rectangle is square it will select controls you don't want to move, so just hold ctrl and click them to unselect them then do the nudging by keys.