Power Basic Releases Version 10 of PB for Windows

Paul Squires · January 13, 2011, 07:39:55 PM

I didn't think that PB would charge credit cards until the product shipped. My card was charged on the day I ordered it (Jan 10). Maybe I missed a check button option somewhere on the order form? Has everyone else here been charged already?

Douglas McDonald · January 13, 2011, 07:49:37 PM

I was charged

Doug

Dennis Hoskins · January 13, 2011, 11:39:24 PM

In the US at least, the Federal Trade Commission Mail/Telephone Order Rule (which applies to Internet sales) requires that a company should ship your order within the time stated in its ad. If no time is promised, the company should ship your order within 30 days after receiving it.

If the company is unable to ship within the promised time, they must give you an â€œoption notice.â€ This notice gives you the choice of agreeing to the delay or canceling your order and receiving a prompt refund.

We shall see.

Dennis

Gary Stout · January 14, 2011, 01:09:58 PM

I was charged also. There were a few post from those across the big pond that wanted to be charged before the end of the year because their country allowed $400 in internet purchases a year without duties being charged (or something like that). I was a little surprised when I seen that I had been charged before the product was shipping. This was the way they have always done it in the past. Bob told someone if they wanted to be charged, to put a comment in the comment box. I left it blank, but was still charged. Its not a big deal, just not the way they have been doing it.

Gary

Paul Squires · January 14, 2011, 03:00:13 PM

Hi Gary - yes, that was my understanding as well. I remembering reading that post on the PB Forum, that's why I was a little surprised to see the charge on my account already.

Pat Dooley · January 15, 2011, 04:25:10 AM

The more time that passes, the more it resembles... vaporware.
Oh well. I hope I have it before I have to start paying interest
charges. That will occur in about 10 days.

Haakon Birkeland · January 16, 2011, 04:02:48 PM

I've experienced that goods where not shipped on the day my card was charged â€" something I recall is one of the requirements for being able to accept Visa transactions.

After sending them a mail (I allowed them some time/days to ship first) that I would not accept this and wanted to cancel the order â€" something they declined. I then contacted my local bank about the disagreement and supplied them with the correspondence so that they had some documentation to supply Visa with.

After a waiting period, Visa then refunded my money â€" no more questions asked.

Roger Garstang · January 17, 2011, 12:58:40 PM

I haven't been keeping up over at PB much, but does anyone know if there is a keyword or something to add that makes the compiler included unused code no matter what and maybe even something to mark code it may always keep as safe to remove? And/Or does it always include code in classes/DLL files that would be used by something else? In some cases you may want it to clean things like WinAPI stuff not used, but keep code in your DLL/Class that may not be used or may look like it isn't used.

José Roca · January 17, 2011, 01:34:48 PM

If a function is exported or declared as common, isn't removed. If a class is declared as COM, it is kept intact. Code is ony removed when it is dead, i.e. nobody references it and it is not exported.

José Roca · January 17, 2011, 03:03:54 PM

DLLs and SLLs are different animals.

Patrice Terrier · January 17, 2011, 03:23:55 PM

For me the code removal, must be done at Link time, not compile time.

Michael Stefanik · January 17, 2011, 04:55:52 PM

Quote from: Patrice Terrier on January 17, 2011, 03:23:55 PM
For me the code removal, must be done at Link time, not compile time.

Based just on what I've read, it sounds like they're doing it during the complation phase by building a call graph and then eliminating those functions that aren't being called or exported. It's possible that they are doing COMDAT elimination/folding as well, but they haven't really given the implementation specifics.

Rolf Brandt · February 14, 2011, 10:24:15 AM

What happened to the update?

Paul Squires · February 14, 2011, 01:43:36 PM

It's been almost a month and a half since the pre-ordering opened. Weird that it is taking this long. I would have thought that it would have been a couple of weeks or so or a month at most. Hopefully it won't be too much longer. It all seems a little anti-climatic now.

Patrice Terrier · February 14, 2011, 02:34:35 PM

I think they put already a lot of pressure on themselves with this new pre-order policy.

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