PowerBASIC Inc Turn Off The Lights

[Brice Manuel]

Nope.

[Eddy Van Esch]

Down again.  That didn't last long.

UPS batteries probably end of life ... 

[Jim Dunn]

PowerBasic.Com site is down again.

But I did get a ping, so apparently the power is on.

>ping powerbasic.com

Pinging powerbasic.com [70.90.69.33] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 70.90.69.33: bytes=32 time=127ms TTL=53
Reply from 70.90.69.33: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=53
Reply from 70.90.69.33: bytes=32 time=103ms TTL=53
Reply from 70.90.69.33: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=53

[Paul Squires]

Some happy I'm learning C++

I am going the PureBasic way ... 

Chicken      jk

[Eddy Van Esch]

Chicken      jk

Well.. due to your continuous ... 'attempts to persuade me' (  ) I was tempted to start learning C++ .. But only for a very brief moment ..  . Every time I look at C(++) code I can't help but think: "Why on earth want people make programming (in C++) so complicated when it can be so simple (PowerB, PureB..)".
I seem to have a natural aversion for C(++). Can't help it...
So what, if C++ is an 'industry standard'? I do not have to make a living programming. Programming for me has to be fun in the first place. I can't imagine that programming in C++ would be fun for me. I would be constantly annoyed by the never-ending needless complexities of it. It's not just the syntax. It is also the dependencies of this-and-that library or framework.
Or maybe I am just to plain stupid and/or lazy to learn it. That is also possible.

I have been looking at PureBasic and its forums. That is the tool for me. It's a self-contained package, including a visual designer (ok, it's no FF, true..). It has a nice and simple BASIC syntax (the one or 2 odd notations I can live with). It runs on 32 and 64 bits, cross-platform. Produces a single stand-alone small executable, no runtimes, no frameworks required. Compiles fast. Produces fast code. The command set is awesome. 95% of the functionality that you ever might need is already built into the language. Little need to immediately having to look for other libraries.

Ok, so it is an 'indie language', no industry standard. But the main programmer is working full time on it. It is his profession. And there are a few other programmers too. PuB has been around for 15 years already.
The forums are very much alive, full with helpful, responsive and knowledgeable people.

Bottom line is: if some people want to choose C++, I completely understand their arguments. But it's not for me. I want programming to be fun! C++ can't do that for me. Also, I want to be productive in programming. I want to devote all my energy to the payload.. not the vehicle ...
Hope this makes (a little) sense ... 

One more thing: I have only followed the forums for a few days, looking at some code snippets. Playing around with the form designer a bit and looked at the code it produces. Took a few peeks at the help file but haven't yet read any manual/tutorial.
Yet, I could start programming in PureBasic right now already... How's that for a learning curve ...   

[Brice Manuel]

... I have been looking at PureBasic and its forums. That is the tool for me. It's a self-contained package, including a visual designer (ok, it's no FF, true..). It has a nice and simple BASIC syntax (the one or 2 odd notations I can live with). It runs on 32 and 64 bits, cross-platform. Produces a single stand-alone small executable, no runtimes, no frameworks required. Compiles fast. Produces fast code. The command set is awesome. 95% of the functionality that you ever might need is already built into the language. Little need to immediately having to look for other libraries...

...One more thing: I have only followed the forums for a few days, looking at some code snippets. Playing around with the form designer a bit and looked at the code it produces. Took a few peeks at the help file but haven't yet read any manual/tutorial.
Yet, I could start programming in PureBasic right now already... How's that for a learning curve ...   

Welcome to PureB!

[Bob Houle]

... Little need to immediately having to look for other libraries.

Very true... but you can find them if you need to. And not just libraries, there's plenty of source code on the forum.

I wanted to try 7-Zip compression for a small backup program that I'm currenty writing... did a search for 7-Zip and there it was. Added a couple of functions to my backup program and now I'm compressing folders MUCH easier than I could with other compression schemes because 7-ZIP itself offers so many built in switches.

Yet, I could start programming in PureBasic right now already... How's that for a learning curve ...   

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

Welcome

[Brice Manuel]

Down again.  What is the over/under on how many times it will go down today?

[Pedro Marquez]

Se ve por la red que los de powerbasic van a dejar de actualizar sus productos y firefly aprovecha para hacer lo mismo, lo cual no me parece bien. Un buen lenguaje como powerbasic puede aguantan muchos años como esta y no veo la necesidad que firefly haga lo mismo.

Notice: February 2, 2014
PlanetSquires terminated 3rd Party Development of programmer tools/addons for the PowerBASIC programming language.

The FireFly Visual Designer will continue to be supported, however, there will be no major upgrades to the core program. This may change in the future should the situation with PowerBASIC’s current lack of development change. The product has been priced to reflect this situation

The PlanetSquires Private Member’s forum is still very active and provides access to free bug fixes.

Esto es desalentador para los ultimos compradores que pagaron 99$ y que aun estamos aprendiendo a usar el editor, la verdad que dan ganas de pasarse a Microsoft.

[James Klutho]

Powerbasic was up again this morning but appears down again at this moment.  I have no idea what the problem could be.  I hope Leaderchip has been contracted to do some diagnostics besides running the skeleton business for who ever is tending this business (trustee?).

[Elias Montoya]

Se ve por la red que los de powerbasic van a dejar de actualizar sus productos y firefly aprovecha para hacer lo mismo, [...] Esto es desalentador para los ultimos compradores que pagaron 99$ y que aun estamos aprendiendo a usar el editor, la verdad que dan ganas de pasarse a Microsoft.

Pedro, la situación esta fea, pero mira el lado positivo; Paul no esta abandonando a sus compradores, solamente esta diciendo que ya no habrá actualizaciones mayores. Los compradores aun tienen acceso a soporte técnico y si Paul hace alguna actualización en Firefly, todos, incluidos los compradores nuevos tendremos acceso a esas correcciones.

Animo, esperemos que la situación cambie. Se me hace difícil pensar que Vivian vaya a dejar que el legado de su esposo se muera así nada mas. Seguramente ella quiere hacer algo, esperemos que lo haga pronto.

Click ==>Siempre mira el lado bueno de la vida. 

[Elias Montoya]

Its up again. (2:10pm)

[José Roca]

Does it matter much if it is up or down? Methinks that the only thing that Vivian would like to do is to sell the business, but it is unlikely that she will find a buyer.

[José Roca]

> Esto es desalentador para los ultimos compradores que pagaron 99$ y que aun estamos > aprendiendo a usar el editor, la verdad que dan ganas de pasarse a Microsoft.

Ya quisiera yo estar en su lugar y haber perdido solamente 99$. Algunos de nosotros hemos visto como muchos años de trabajo se han ido a la m..., digo la basura.

[Pedro Marquez]

Ya quisiera yo estar en su lugar y haber perdido solamente 99$. Algunos de nosotros hemos visto como muchos años de trabajo se han ido a la m..., digo la basura.

No digo que he perdido nada ya que los dos productos son muy buenos y valen su dinero, pero si cierran el foro que es donde esta casi todo, los novatos ya podemos cerrar.