FF 3.74 for PB and Windows 10 problem

[Andy Flowers]

I am not sure if this problem was identified before.

I am using FF with Windows 10 64 bit and there are times I attempt to Load/Start FF and it does not load on the first attempt. After double clicking it tow or three times it loads. Has anyone else encountered this problem ?

Andy

[Jean-pierre Leroy]

Hi Andy,

I encountered the same problem as you.

But I would like to say that this problem doesn't happen only with FireFfly 3.74. I have the same issue with many other software.

I think it's a Windows 10 issue.

Regards,
Jean-Pierre

[Andy Flowers]

Thanks Jean-pierre.

Will just have to wait to see if it goes away as Windows update gets installed.

Andy

[Klaas Holland]

Hi all,

I have this problem too on Windows XP and on Windows 7.

Regards,
Klaas

[Paul Squires]

I encounter this problem also... and I wrote the damn program 

Not sure why it happens. I never researched the problem because I thought that it was probably just my development setup but obviously now it is something that many of you are experiencing.

[David Kenny]

No problems on Win7 32bit here.

[Petrus Vorster]

I get it too, but its not limited to Firefly only.
I found it on other tools like Inkscape, Gimpshop and a game or two.
It appears to be a Windows issue.

[Brian Alvarez]

 I noticed this problem only after i manually copied the 3.74 update to the 3.70 installation. I think Win10 has a problem with user manually "fiddling" with the installed files.

[Patrice Terrier]

I had also this problem with PowerBASIC, one of my application was starting only once out of height.

This is related to a random memory error that occures in the latest version 10.04.

This was already reported in the beta 2012, and in the current one.

Comparing 10.03 to 10.04 might be more productive. 10.04 was not stable for a large well functioning s/w system here. It was next to impossible to get an error readout, because just changing a few lines of code around would cause the error to happen elsewhere. The primary symptom was the application shut down and slam bam back to the desktop. This is similar to the problems others have reported in this beta.

I have even writen a small demo for the beta, that is able to reproduce it every time.

In my case the problem occured with a conjunction of REDIM/ARRAY SCAN (and a global dynamic array)

FUNCTION skMenuSkinItemOk (BYVAL nID AS LONG) AS LONG '// 03-21-2016
    LOCAL K, nItem AS LONG
    'IF UBOUND(mSkin) > 0 THEN ARRAY SCAN mSkin(), = nID, TO nItem
    for K = lbound(mSkin()) to ubound(mSkin())
        if mSkin(K) = nID then nItem = K: exit for
    next
    FUNCTION = nItem
END FUNCTION

Replacing the line in red with the line in blue solved the problem i had in WinLIFT when compiling with 10.04.

I have attached a zip file, with the short demo i wrote for the beta.

So far (for PB users) the only reliable solution is to switch back to a previous compiler version, and to the first FireFly 3.0 version (the one without the CWindow class).

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[Paul Squires]

That's awesome Patrice, thanks for sharing this knowledge.

Paul

[Barry Gordon]

Hi Chaps,

I too had this problem when I created a new directory for the FF latest version - and then created a new shortcut to point at it  (on Win 10)

It may entirely be my imagination - but I feel that since I slowed down my clicking speed (i.e. more deliberate) it seems to work reliably.

Weird!

Barry

[Brian Alvarez]

 After i copied the 3.74 files into the 3.70 installation, the
message box doesnt paste the Messagebox code in the
editor, is there a fix for this?