FF35 Project Properties

Started by Martin Francom, October 31, 2011, 05:26:04 PM

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Martin Francom

The Project Properties window does not look quite right
on my monitor.  Is it a problem with my monitor or is
the graphics not being handled correctly by FF35 ?


Haakon Birkeland

Please put subjects like this in the Technical Support forum where it belongs and not here where we only should suggest new and exiting things we'd like FF to do for us.

The skewed controls is nothing I've seen with FF on my systems (3), and when issues like that happens my initial thought are always going towards the DPI settings in the advanced part of the Display Properties.

Haakon 8o)

Martin Francom

Haakon,
   You may be on to something.  I have font size set to 125% .

   Other programs don't seem to have a problem with setting font size large.  I wonder if there is something that Paul can do to have FF35 handle this type of situation better.

   I guess now this post is a feature request.

Haakon Birkeland

QuoteI guess now this post is a feature request.
Not the smallest request either if I recall correctly from previous discussions.

I've seen high end software packages struggling with the subject, but if my memory don't fail me I think Jose has made an effort to consider the subject in his editor?! My general take on the subject is to avoid messing with the setting as there plenty of applications out there that one might need, where this issue is not considered â€" even thought of.

If things are to tiny on screen for your eyesight, the combo of a larger screen and lower resolution probably is a more viable solution in case other applications also gets messed up.

A useful link, in case Paul will spend time on it;
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd464660%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Haakon 8o)

Martin Francom

Haakon,
   Unfortunately, my old eyes can not see the written word with the clarity that they
once were able to.  Even with a large monitor sometimes the type set is just too small
for my eyes. 
    IMHO,  it would be a great, ya, wonderful if FF could handle the condition when
screen fonts have been re-sized.  Maybe it's not possible.  But I think it must be because
some of the other commercial software that I use seems to deal with re-sized screen fonts
without having this kind of problem.

José Roca

Make sure you're using the latest version. I'm using 175 DPI and that dialog displays correctly.

Haakon Birkeland

I reckoned the age had taken its toll on your sight, but I wonder why altering the DPI of the monitor instead of lowering the resolution to make everything larger is your remedy? Larger monitors with higher resolution won't solve it but rather make things worse as their resolution usually would be higher than on smaller monitors.

A larger monitor in conjunction with resolution lowered beyond the native resolution on the other hand should not introduce any such artifacts, and if other applications act up for you, it might be the only solution solving the initial issue without adding new ones to annoy you with.
Haakon 8o)

Cho Sing Kum

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Quote from: Haakon Birkeland on November 02, 2011, 04:09:32 AM
I reckoned the age had taken its toll on your sight, but I wonder why altering the DPI of the monitor instead of lowering the resolution to make everything larger is your remedy? Larger monitors with higher resolution won't solve it but rather make things worse as their resolution usually would be higher than on smaller monitors.

A larger monitor in conjunction with resolution lowered beyond the native resolution on the other hand should not introduce any such artifacts, and if other applications act up for you, it might be the only solution solving the initial issue without adding new ones to annoy you with.

Age do take a BIG toll on one's eyesight, and I mean BIG. Usually, the younger ones are ignorant of how bad this can be until... until... they reach that age.

Lowering the resolution introduced bleeding effect into various parts of the screen and is annoying. I got this on a few LCD monitors but I had to live with this annoyance for many years until I found a good eye surgeon that successfully operated on my worst type of cataract, posterior polar cataract, the type that carry a high risk of posterior capsule rupture during operation.

Marty may be using a beta of FF 3.5 that has DPI-awareness codes that Paul did not implemented effectively. See this post:

http://www.planetsquires.com/protect/forum/index.php?topic=2921.msg21725#msg21725

And for that, Marty has to download the latest version, as Josa pointed out.

Choosing a Higher DPI has the same effect as lowering the resolution but it does it better - there is no screen bleeding effect on LCD monitors. In Windows 7, there is also "Use windows XP Style DPI Scaling" to fall back to.

Edited to add:
I remember seeing the same problem posted here but could not find it earlier. Now, I found it:

http://www.planetsquires.com/protect/forum/index.php?topic=2914.msg21673#msg21673

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Martin Francom

Quote from: Jose Roca on November 01, 2011, 09:54:30 PM
Make sure you're using the latest version. I'm using 175 DPI and that dialog displays correctly.


Jose'   I am using version  3.5.0.0  dated  10/8/2011 3:44 PM

    Is this not the most cuurent version?

José Roca

I'm using the same version and it works fine.

Martin Francom

Jose' ,
   Maybe it's my graphic card or my monitors.
Both are top of the line. I am using Windows-7
that might be the difference too. 
   I played with the "Personalize"  settings.  What I found
was at 100%  and 150% no problem  but at other sizes
such 125% or 130% or 135%  then this problem would show.

   Can some one else using Windows-7  use the "Personalize"
properties and set the font size to  125%, 130% and 135% and see
if this problem occurs for you.

José Roca

It occurs, at any setting, if you have checked the "Use Windows XP DPI style scaling" in the "Custom DPI Setting" dialog. Uncheck it and apply.

Eddy Van Esch

Hi

I noticed this same issue (better never than so late...) and posted a thread ( http://www.planetsquires.com/protect/forum/index.php?topic=2983.0 ), before Haakon pointed me to this thread.

I am using Win XP Pro SP3.
The "Use Windows XP DPI style scaling" that Jose mentioned is obviously not found on Win XP ...
I have DPI Setting set on 125% (120 DPI) normally. I changed it to 150% (144 DPI) but no change.
Anyway, I would like to keep my DPI settings on 125%.
Do I need to look at Paul to solve this from within FF ..?

Kind regards
Eddy
Eddy

Cho Sing Kum


I can replicate this problem with FF3.51. No problem with FF3.10.

DPI settings to Medium 1.25%
Win7 32-bit

See screen shot attached.

Paul Squires

Looks like I need to fix this for the next update. Hopefully it won't be too difficult to fix.
Paul Squires
PlanetSquires Software